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Social Security

jana4 started this conversation

When applying for social security disability you can expect to be denied. They usually deny you at least three times before they start to look at your seriously. Don't give up keep appealing. If you want to reduce the stress of the appeals then it is best after your first denial to get a disability lawyer. The average rate that they will charge is %25 of the initial payment. You will have an initial interview and then from that date until your qualifying date that period of time the payment is retroactive. There are 50 categories that are now listed as qualifying disabilities. These can be found on the Social Security website. I would research them and make sure your disability falls under one of those categories. Critical information is updated medical reports. Lawyers know of additional loop holes such as a doctors letter on dire need, being homeless etc. IF you don't want to use an attorney you can expect a 5-7 year wait on the average. From the time you appeal is an 18 month to 24 month waiting period. Everytime medical changes or your circumstance changes social security needs to be notified. Don't try to guess what you think they will do. File the paper work and expect to be denied without being discouraged and then appeal. that's how it works. The amount you can recieve depends on how much you have paid in to social security and the type of benefits you are awarded. Any social security office can explain that to you. Social security will expect you to try working with vocational rehabilitation if at all possible. Be familiar with what vocational rehabilitation does. IF you have any questions please blog me.

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Dobguy1
Social security is definitly going though changes as alot of baby boomers knew it would. The amount of new filings for ssdi increased dramatically in 2010 due to economic issues and an aging baby boom generation. I worked 28 yrs and finally became disabled due to aids and crytococcal menegitis. The aids was my fault due to risky behavior in the 80s but I did work hard even after my diagnosis until the menegitis effects messed up my cognitive skills. Ive met people who are on ssi or ssdi most on ssi seem to be illegal women around of hispanic descent, for some reason one always seems to be looking around corners of buildings here and acts like she lives here, not sure maybe she does, everyonce in a while cops roll through, if she is outside she will hightail into the breezeway....Its not an old issue even in the early 90s I would see illegals in the barrion where I lived who lived 5 deep in cochroach infested rooms in houses. The kids would go to local schools and were on some type of public assistance. I worked hard got myself out of that scene became an electrician bought a house truck tools only to see it go away when I got sick so now I am back in the poor side of life on ssdi. If anyone says ssdi or ssi is a godsend they are in denial...it is geared towards those who are truly disabled not the person with a limp or too damn fat to carry themselves driving a cadailac around with a handicap placard. Those are the ones who make me sick.
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Dobguy1
Just read only 1 percent of people who recieve ssdi ever go back to work.....guess its do or die at that point...
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jana4
 in response to Starshine...   This country treats animals better than people. we put them out of their misery when the time is right. However, the disabled and theaged are forgotten and not cared for. Other countries care for their senior citizens and see that they have respect and some quality of life. Here you are on your own. If you are lucky enough to have family members that care you have it better than others. However, the majority have no one and have to fend for themselves with no help. It is time that this country stands up for it's own. There are many people who live across the border using Post office boxes to recieve social security checks. No one should be allowed a social security check unless they have become a citizen of the United States. Even then social security cards and work permits aren't monitored enough. Many people get legal social security cards take them across the board and give them to family members and since there are no dealth records from other countries you have 2 or more generations working on the same card and eventually drawing social security. there needs to be a monitoring system. The whole system is currently messed up and people like you and me will pay the price.
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Starshine
 in response to jana4...   

You are right.

I called the White House on another issue the right to die in Oregon and Rumsfield was going after the passage of it. I told the lady who answered the phone why I wa upset as a man I knew disabled in a wheelchair and pain medicine couldn't help it would kill him. Well, after 20 yrs of the pain and feeling bones coming through he wheeled himself into a vacant swimming pool and drowned to end it all so I would have rather him have the right to be put out of his misery other than drowning to death. And this was before 911 , I told her I think we should close the borders as I have known that people can come into this country into Texas set up a mail box and get social security checks then go back home across the border.

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jana4
 in response to Starshine...   This is where you need to write to your representatives. People who have worked all their life and supported this country aren't qualify yet immigrants coming in from other countries who have never paid into the system are qualifying for disability insurance. What's with that. I can name you person after person who has come in with diabetes and aren't citizens and qualify immediately. We all need to stand up to the government on this issue.
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Starshine
 in response to jana4...   

You are right about the situation and what your attorney said. I know someone who went to a mental health person (shrink?) and she got low income housing fast! I don't qualify for social security unless I make so much for next four years and it keeps going up the amount as I mostly worked for a government job and they don't pay into social security so you need to save plus take out disablity insurance in case something happens where you get sick.

It is a mess!

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jana4
 in response to RALPH7...   I am going to refile and see what happens if that doesn't work I will be in contact with everyone.
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RALPH7
 in response to jana4...   There is one way in which you can speed thinks up if you can get in touch with a senator.Senators have alot of pull.I knew a senator who campaigned at my parents many years ago.If someone who had a disability or was a senior he went right to work & got them the help they needed.I had someone contact him & he ended up with a socia; security check in less than two weeks.He Was Senator Dennis Deconcinni.
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jana4
 in response to RALPH7...   

You are one of the lucky ones. They are still denying many people who are in need of disability. I know of one situation where she will probably be dead before they approve it and it's going on seven years. They have also gotten very picky about disability in the last two years. They are not approving for some things that were approved before and that is why they now have the list of 50 qualifying areas. I have been waiting two years. My doctor is furious and I was just called by my attorney this week and the appeal was denied. I now have to start the complete process over. I can only stand fifteen minutes and walk one fourth of a block due to the pain in my back. I have been through tons of medical evaluations. I have no income and the system is broke. I have been told by both social security and my attorney that If I become homeless and go to a shelter I will get it faster. Why should I? I paid into the system for forty years. It really depends on your type of disability. I have a friend whose husband can't breathe and has severe problems daily. It took him six months to qualify. I talk with people on a daily basis who are struggling to qualify including people who have reached the age of social security and it takes forever. But with disabilities the average is 3-5 years. This is my field of expertise and I deal with this on a daily basis. I have another friend who has been fighting for three years due to severe injuries from domestic violence which not only affected her ability to work but her ability to walk. They won't even talk to her before May. People don't realize how many ligitimate situations are being pushed aside and having to wait and their is no help for housing, food, etc if you don't have children. It's a very serious situation which is only going to be compounded by our economy.

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RALPH7

Really you don't need a lawyer for certain disabilities but will always be denied the first time.If you don't get a lawyer after the first denial that doesn't mean you may have to wait 5 or more years.They are working disability different now they are trying move it thru faster so they don't have all the red tape.If you truely need it now you will most likely get it the second time.The process was changed when Clinton was in office.I got mine the third time around with no lawyer.So it took me 1.5yrs,when I first applied I was in a chair.

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